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		<title>A National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Bill</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[H.R. 822, introduced in the U.S. House by Representatives Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Heath Shuler (D-N.C.), would allow any person with a valid state-issued concealed firearm permit to carry a concealed firearm in any]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H.R. 822, introduced in the U.S. House by Representatives Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Heath Shuler (D-N.C.), would allow any person with a valid state-issued concealed firearm permit to carry a concealed firearm in any state that issues concealed firearm permits, or that does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms for lawful purposes. A state&#8217;s laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within its borders. The bill applies to D.C., Puerto Rico and U.S. territories. It would not create a federal licensing system; rather, it would require the states to recognize each others&#8217; carry permits, just as they recognize drivers&#8217; licenses and carry permits held by armored car guards. Rep. Stearns has introduced such legislation since 1995.</p>
<p>• H.R. 822 recognizes the significant impact of the landmark cases, District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010), which found that the Second Amendment protects a fundamental, individual right to keep and bear arms and that the protections of the Second Amendment extend to infringements under state law.</p>
<p>• Today, 48 states have laws permitting concealed carry, in some circumstances.  Forty states, accounting for two-thirds of the U.S. population, have right-to-carry laws. Thirty-six of those have &#8220;shall issue&#8221; permit laws (including Alaska and Arizona, which also allow carrying without a permit), two have fairly administered &#8220;discretionary issue&#8221; permit laws, and Vermont (along with Alaska and Arizona) allows carrying without a permit. (Eight states have restrictive discretionary issue laws.)</p>
<p>• Citizens with carry permits are more law-abiding than the general public. Only 0.01% of nearly 1.2 million permits issued by Florida have been revoked because of firearm crimes by permit holders. Similarly low percentages of permits have been revoked in Texas, Virginia, and other right-to-carry states that keep such statistics. Right-to-carry is widely supported by law enforcement officials and groups.</p>
<p>• States with right-to-carry laws have lower violent crime rates. On average, right-to-carry states have 22 percent lower total violent crime rates, 30 percent lower murder rates, 46 percent lower robbery rates, and 12 percent lower aggravated assault rates, compared to the rest of the country. The seven states with the lowest violent crime rates are right-to-carry states. (Data: FBI.)</p>
<p>• Crime declines in states with right-to-carry laws. Since adopting right-to-carry in 1987, Florida&#8217;s total violent crime and murder rates have dropped 32 percent and 58 percent, respectively. Texas&#8217; violent crime and murder rates have dropped 20 percent and 31 percent, respectively, since enactment of its 1996 right-to-carry law. (Data: FBI.)</p>
<p>• The right of self-defense is fundamental, and has been recognized in law for centuries.  The Declaration of Independence asserts that &#8220;life&#8221; is among the unalienable rights of all people. The Second Amendment guarantees the right of the people to keep and bear arms for &#8220;security.&#8221;</p>
<p>• The laws of all states and the constitutions of most states recognize the right to use force in self-defense. The Supreme Court has stated that a person &#8220;may repel force by force&#8221; in self-defense, and is &#8220;entitled to stand his ground and meet any attack made upon him with a deadly weapon, in such a way and with such force&#8221; as needed to prevent &#8220;great bodily injury or death.&#8221; (Beard v. United States (1895))</p>
<p>• Congress affirmed the right to own guns for &#8220;protective purposes&#8221; in the Gun Control Act (1968) and Firearm Owners&#8217; Protection Act (1986). In 1982, the Senate Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution described the right to arms as &#8220;a right of the individual citizen to privately possess and carry in a peaceful manner firearms and similar arms.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Why the Gun is Civilization</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 08:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is by <a href="http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/marko.htm" target="_blank">Marko Kloos</a><br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat–it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation…and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.</p>
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		<title>Mike Vanderboegh’s Gunwalker Letter to Mexican Consul General (A Must READ)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 01:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Vanderboegh’s Gunwalker Letter to Mexican Consul General (A Must READ)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is taken directky from <a href="http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/02/robert-farago/mike-vanderboeghs-letter-to-consul-general-salvador-de-lara/" target="_blank">The Truth About Guns</A></p>
<p>CÓNSUL GENERAL SALVADOR DE LARA<br />
Consulado General de México en Atlanta<br />
1700 Chantilly Dr. NE<br />
Atlanta Georgia 30324</p>
<p>Your Excellency,</p>
<p>I have been asked by someone who knows you well to brief you in writing about what I know about the scandal known as “Project Gunwalker” which resulted in the death of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry on 14 December and especially on the deliberate, calculated and premeditated violation of Mexican sovereignty that this incident entailed.</p>
<p>By now I understand that you have been made aware of the questionable circumstances surrounding the death of BPA Terry — how the ATF allowed over 2,000 semi-automatic rifles to be purchased by informants and “straw purchasers” and smuggled south of the international border in an ill-conceived attempt by the ATF to boost the agency’s case for more funding in the much criticized “Project Gunrunner.” In this operation, American gun stores were encouraged to allow questionable sales to go through, even when they called ATF to ask if they wished the transactions to be declined at the point of sale. (See the case of Carter’s County gun stores in the Houston area.)</p>
<p>Here is what attorney Dick Deguerin was quoted as saying about this case, just a day before the murder of BPA Terry:</p>
<p>    “Let me tell you something about Carter’s Country. They have been co-operating with ATF from the get go,” says attorney Dick Deguerin who represents Carter’s Country owner, Bill Carter.</p>
<p>    Deguerin says the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms asked Carter’s Country to complete transactions, even when sales people strongly suspected the weapons were headed to Mexican drug gangs.</p>
<p>    “They were told to go through with what they considered to be questionable sales. They were told to go through with sales of three or more assault rifles at the same time or five or more 9 millimeter guns at the same time or a young Hispanic male paying in cash. It’s all profiling, but they went through with it,” said Deguerin.</p>
<p>It was inevitable that one or more of the weapons allowed to go south without notifying the appropriate authorities of your government would end up in the hands of criminals. Brian Terry is dead from a bullet fired from one of these. Statistical probability and plain logic indicates that far more than one of your own citizens have already been killed by them since this operation began.</p>
<p>You should know that one ATF employee, Darren Gil, the ATF attache in Mexico City, tried to do the right thing. Though he was kept out of the “intelligence loop” by Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix, Arizona office, William D. “Bill” Newell, my understanding from other ATF agents who have now been contacted by Senator Grassley’s office, is that Mr. Gil, when he learned by informal communication channels that this was happening, clashed with SAC Newell over whether your government should be notified. Newell insisted that there would be no notification of the appropriate Mexican authorities.</p>
<p>Mr. Gil, I am told, did not take the word of a mere SAC when such an action involved possible violations of treaty and formal understandings between our two governments, contacted his superiors in Washington, D.C. In a meeting that I am told included the Deputy Attorney General, Deputy Director Melson of ATF and various subordinates, it was decided to keep the government of Mexico in the dark. Mr. Gil, in return for his honest attempt to prevent an effusion of blood as well as an international incident, was forced into retirement and did so on 31 December of last year. Here, in words of an experienced ATF street agent, is what I was told on 17 December 2010:</p>
<p>    “Darren Gil, former attache to Mexico is an honest and honorable guy. He was forcefully removed from Mexico without warning in November in large part because he wouldn’t sit silent on these matters. He will tell the truth if asked by competent authority. He retired Dec 31 because of all this.”</p>
<p>I understand that representations have been made to your government informally that this was an isolated incident. Yet, if that were the case, then why did our Attorney General Eric Holder select SAC Newell to replace Darren Gil earlier this week? He is to go to Mexico City and take over the attache position by 8 May according to ATF orders.</p>
<p>This again is a studied and deliberate insult to the government and sovereignty of the Republic of Mexico. To select the man who insisted that your government be lied to, either by omission or commission, cannot be otherwise interpreted</p>
<p>I urge you to press this question with the U.S. State Department at the earliest opportunity. At the least, the government of the United States owes the Mexican government an abject apology for allowing this scandal to threaten the lives of Mexican citizens and the safety of your streets. Whether such an outrage demands monetary damages is, of course, a matter of consideration for your government. I would say, however, after many years of studying the ATF from near and far, that talk is cheap, promises forgotten and apologies insincere. Money damages, on the other hand, is a coin of the realm they well understand.</p>
<p>If I can be of further service, do not hesititate to contact me.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Mike Vanderboegh<br />
PO Box 926<br />
Pinson, AL 35126</p>
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		<title>Plaintiffs Appeal Firearms Freedom Act Ruling to the Ninth Circus Court</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 00:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plaintiffs in litigation to validate the principles of the Montana Firearms Freedom Act (MFFA) have appealed an expected but adverse federal district court decision to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enroute to the U.S. Supreme Court</p>
<p>MISSOULA, MONT. – Plaintiffs in litigation to validate the principles of the Montana Firearms Freedom Act (MFFA) have appealed an expected but adverse federal district court decision to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. The plaintiffs in MSSA v. Holder include the Montana Shooting Sports Association (MSSA), the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF), and MSSA President Gary Marbut of Missoula.</p>
<p>The MFFA is designed to test the power of Congress to regulate everything without limits under the narrow power given to Congress in the Constitution to “regulate commerce … among the states.” The MFFA declares that any firearms, ammunition and firearm accessories made and retained in Montana are not subject to any federal authority under the Commerce Clause. Congress must find some authority among the Constitution’s “enumerated powers” for every action it takes.</p>
<p>Plaintiffs filed the lawsuit MSSA v. Holder on the day the MFFA became effective in Montana, October 1, 2009. Since the MFFA enactment in Montana, the MFFA has been cloned and enacted in seven other states, and FFA bills have been introduced in the legislatures of 20 more states.</p>
<p>In a judgment entered on October 19, 2010, the district court granted the U.S. Motion to Dismiss. It is this judgment that is now appealed to the Ninth Circuit.</p>
<p>MSSA President and plaintiff Gary Marbut commented, “We’ve known all along that the district court will not provide what we seek, the reversal of a half-century of bad Commerce Clause precedent. We need to get to the U.S. Supreme Court for that. This notice of appeal puts us at the 50-yard line in our quest to get to the Supreme Court – it is a big step in the direction we need to go.”</p>
<p>Not only has the FFA concept attracted the interest and support of many other states frustrated with an overbearing federal government, but the MSSA v. Holder lawsuit has attracted an unusual, perhaps record, number of amici (amicus curiae, friends of the court). Some qualified observers say they’ve never seen a case that has attracted as much amici support at the district court level as this case has. Amici include the State of Utah (also representing several other states), Gun Owners Foundation (Gun Owners of America), the Goldwater Institute of Arizona, the Paragon Foundation of New Mexico, the Weapons Collectors Society of Montana, an amicus group of Montana legislators who supported the MFFA, and another amicus group of non-Montana legislators who sponsored or co-sponsored FFA bills in other states. The State of Montana has also intervened in support of the MFFA. Other amici are expected to enter in support of the MFFA when the lawsuit is argued before Ninth Circuit.</p>
<p>“It is totally obvious from the positions of federal participants, both lawyers and judges for the U.S.,” Marbut commented, “that the federal establishment definitely, almost desperately, wishes to prevent this issue from having a trial on merit.”</p>
<p>The likely options for the Ninth Circuit are to uphold the judgment of the district court or to overrule the district court and remand the case back to the district court for trial. Regardless of what action is taken by the Ninth Circuit, MSSA v. Holder is certain to be appealed to the Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court only reviews the district court dismissal on appeal to it, the Supreme Court can still rule on the merits of the case since part of the grounds for dismissal is based on merit.</p>
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		<title>Still time to save on Guns in South Carolina during their annual &#8220;Second Amendment Sales Tax Holiday&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[South Carolina's controversial and annual "Second Amendment Sales Tax Holiday" is back as of today, November 26, at 12:01 a.m. and will run through midnight Saturday, November 27.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>South Carolina&#8217;s controversial and annual &#8220;Second Amendment Sales Tax Holiday&#8221; is back as of today, November 26, at 12:01 a.m. and will run through midnight Saturday, November 27.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t guessed if you buy a handgun, rifle, or shotgun you&#8217;ll be able to skip the state&#8217;s 6% sales tax and any local county tax. But all gun accessories and ammunition won&#8217;t be subject to the discount. </p>
<p>If you need to know any of the nitty gritty check out this FAQ from the South Carolina Department of Revenue.</p>
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		<title>Don’t forget National Ammo Day this Year. It is Friday November 19th</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Friday, November 19, is National Ammo Day, a day when gun-owners are encouraged to purchase at least 100 rounds of ammunition]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Friday, November 19, is National Ammo Day, a day when gun-owners are encouraged to purchase at least 100 rounds of ammunition. National Ammo Day is an annual BUYcott event, a grassroots demonstration of the numbers of committed American firearms owners. There are an estimated 75 MILLION gun owners in the United States of America. If each gun owner or Second Amendment supporter buys 100 rounds of ammunition, that&#8217;s 7.5 BILLION rounds in the hands of law-abiding citizens!<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ammo Day is based on the principle that there is strength in numbers. Consider this &#8211; when politicians see the amount of tax dollars generated through ammunition sales those politicians will be less inclined to pass restrictive legislation. Likewise, when millions of lawful firearms owners &#8220;vote with their pocketbooks&#8221; on Ammo Day, it demonstrates that supporters of the Second Amendment are serious, organized, and willing to spend money to protect their rights. That&#8217;s something anti-gun politicians can&#8217;t ignore</p>
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		<title>A conservative look at gun control and the history of it</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Conservative commentator Bill Whittle wants you to know what We the Teapole believe about gun control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservative commentator Bill Whittle wants you to know what We the Teapole believe about gun control.<br />
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		<title>True Facts about firearms in America you NEED to Know!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 08:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ It contains REAL statistics, (Not the ones you here on the news) The fact that the American Association of Police Chiefs believe we the "public" should be able to own and carry guns for both our safety and hunting purposes. The type of Facts that the Drive By media and gun grabbers don't want you to know]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We would like to thank <a href="http://www.gunfacts.info" target=_BLANK">GunFacts.info</a> for this file. We are only giving you one type of the file. They have 4 types in both English and spanish. If you do not like or just want a different way of seeing the same file please head over to the Gun Facts site. We added this to our server to help you and pull a bit of the load from their server. This file (<a href="http://www.gunsandammoenthusiastblog.com/gun-facts-5.1-screen.pdf" target="_blank">Downloaded-able Here</a>). It contains REAL statistics, (Not the ones you here on the news) The fact that the American Association of Police Chiefs believe we the &#8220;public&#8221; should be able to own and carry guns for both our safety and hunting purposes. The type of Facts that the Drive By media and gun grabbers don&#8217;t want you to know. Alomg with other truths and real life facts. Please download a copy read, keep, and pass a link to it along to all your friends.<br />
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We heard bout this site from the <a href="http://www.gunrightsradio.com/" target="_blank">Gun Rights Radio Network</a> and the pod casts their for pointing this site out to us. They post pod casts about guns, gun rights, gun news, and reviews. Just wanted to be fair to both sites.</p>
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		<title>Bad Driver? In Debt? Proposed New NYC Law Would Ban You From Owning a Firearm</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 22:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New York City residents who want to own a gun may soon be denied permits if they are litterbugs, if they are bad drivers, or if they have fallen behind on a few bills]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York City residents who want to own a gun may soon be denied permits if they are litterbugs, if they are bad drivers, or if they have fallen behind on a few bills.<br />
Under proposed revisions to the police department&#8217;s handgun, rifle and shotgun permit procedures, the NYPD can reject gun license applicants for a number of reasons, including:<br />
If they have been arrested or convicted of almost any &#8220;violation,&#8221; in any state; having a &#8220;poor driving history&#8221;; having been fired for &#8220;circumstances that demonstrate lack of good judgment&#8221;; having &#8220;failed to pay legally required debts&#8221;; being deemed to lack &#8220;good moral character&#8221;; or if any other information demonstrates &#8220;other good cause for the denial of the permit.&#8221;<br />
Critics say many of the restrictions are vague, have nothing to do with one&#8217;s fitness to own a gun and are unconstitutional.<br />
Supporters say the new restrictions will make gun purchasing more efficient and don&#8217;t give the NYPD any more power than it already has.<br />
According to a Report of the Governmental Affairs Division, the changes came about as the result of two recent Supreme Court decisions.<br />
&#8220;In District of Columbia v. Heller the Court found that a District of Columbia law banning the possession of handguns in the home was invalid due to the rights conferred by the Second Amendment; in McDonald v. City of Chicago, Ill., the Court applied that right equally to the States,&#8221; the report says.<br />
As result, Councilman Peter F. Vallone Jr., chairman of the Public Safety Committee, introduced a proposal to lower the city&#8217;s fees for gun permits to ones that more accurately reflect what the city spends to issue them.<br />
&#8220;Now the fees are going to be much less and they&#8217;re going to have a relationship to the amount of administrative costs that are involved, and in that way it will withstand the Constitution and the court challenge that most people expect will be coming down the road,&#8221; Vallone told FoxNews.com.<br />
The current $340 fee for all pistol licenses would be lowered to $70 for a premises license and $110 for a carry license. Rifle and shotgun permits would drop from $140 to $65. Costs for license renewals would also be significantly reduced.<br />
With the lower fees, the New York Police Department also introduced revisions to the police department&#8217;s gun permit procedures, which, unlike Vallone&#8217;s bill, need only approval from the mayor&#8217;s office, not the City Council.<br />
&#8220;Although I do have oversight capability and I can have a hearing on it, I don&#8217;t have any formal say in it,&#8221; Vallone said.<br />
Councilmember Dan Halloran says those revisions are intended to give the police more power to deny licenses, which could counter a possible spike in gun ownership triggered by the lower fees.<br />
But Halloran and Vallone say the proposed restrictions give the NYPD so much authority that they violate the Second Amendment.<br />
&#8220;The disqualification categories are downright scary. They&#8217;re completely open to interpretation and they really don&#8217;t measure anybody&#8217;s fitness to own a gun,&#8221; Halloran told FoxNews.com.<br />
He pointed to a restriction stating applicants can be denied if they&#8217;ve &#8220;been arrested, indicted or convicted for a crime or violation, except minor traffic violations.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;So now the city can deny a permit for a building code violation, a sanitation ticket for failing to sweep the sidewalk … an array of non-criminal acts,&#8221; Halloran said.<br />
Another troublesome restriction, Halloran said, is one that allows permit denial if &#8220;the applicant has failed to pay legally required debts such as child support, taxes, fines or penalties imposed by governmental authorities.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;So people who are in foreclosure, or have credit card judgments, maybe filed bankruptcy, can now be legally denied,&#8221; he said.<br />
Applicants can also be denied, under the new restrictions, if they&#8217;ve &#8220;been terminated from employment under circumstances that demonstrate lack of good judgment or lack of good moral character.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;It seems to me it&#8217;s more of an application to be pope than to be a gun owner,&#8221; Vallone said. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know anyone who would pass this thing. Anyone who has ever tried marijuana or has a bad driving history, lost a job regarding a lack of judgment – those are ridiculous criteria for gun ownership.&#8221;<br />
But Jason Post, a spokesman for Mayor Michael Bloomberg&#8217;s office, said nothing in the proposal gives police a power they don&#8217;t already have.<br />
&#8220;The revisions will make the application process more efficient and give more clarity to applicants for gun licenses,&#8221; Post told FoxNews.com in an e-mail.<br />
Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, agreed, saying the changes appear to be a &#8220;fleshing out&#8221; of existing gun restrictions, and not an expansion of them.<br />
&#8220;I think it&#8217;s a good faith attempt by New York City authorities to make sure that their restrictions comply with the Constitution standards that the Supreme Court&#8217;s adopted over the last two years,&#8221; he told FoxNews.com.<br />
While some restrictions, like paying legally required debts, may seem irrelevant to critics, Helmke says they are not.<br />
&#8220;Child support, taxes, fines and governmental penalties I think are legitimate things. Basically, if someone&#8217;s not complying with what the government requires of somebody, that&#8217;s usually a sign that you can&#8217;t trust them to follow the rules with something like a gun,&#8221; he said.<br />
As for whether the rule could apply to failure to pay a cable TV bill, as Halloran implied, Helmke said, &#8220;I think he&#8217;s stretching it there.&#8221;<br />
Halloran said the biggest problem is that the rules are open to that kind of interpretation, and he pointed to the clause that reads that applicants can be denied for failure &#8220;to provide information requested by the License Division or required by this chapter&#8221; or &#8220;other information demonstrates an unwillingness to abide by the law, a lack of candor towards lawful authorities, a lack of concern for the safety of oneself and/or other persons and/or for public safety, and/or other good cause for the denial of the license,&#8221; as the most obvious example.<br />
&#8220;Could this be any more vague and open ended?&#8221; he asked. &#8220;Ask yourself, would any other constitutional right be subject to such vagaries? Imagine these requirements put to be eligible to vote, to have a lawyer, to be secure in your person or possessions, your right to a jury.&#8221;<br />
Former federal prosecutor and constitutional law expert Douglas Burns said that while the Heller and McDonald cases allow guns to be regulated closely, New York&#8217;s proposal has some legal issues.<br />
&#8220;If left unchanged, I think there could be some problems in court with it,&#8221; Burns told FoxNews.com in an e-mail.<br />
With a few adjustments, though, the proposal could be made to stand up in court, he said.<br />
&#8220;I think like any proposed amendments, it has to be fine-tuned &#8212; you can&#8217;t leave in &#8220;violations other than traffic&#8221; because under NYS law a violation is not a criminal offense, so I think that&#8217;s a problem. Also, as I said, the debt payment and job-firing language has to be fine-tuned; it is too broad&#8230;. I think the legislator does raise some valid concerns.&#8221;<br />
The council is due to vote on the price changes, which are expected to pass, and to advise the police department on the restriction changes Wednesday.<br />
Should the department decide to go forward with the proposed changes, Vallone says he is &#8220;seriously considering having an oversight hearing on this topic&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Police Launch Stealth Gun Control Group: The National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While we attempt to chase this down, I would once again caution those who seeks to defend and extend the Second Amendment: the law enforcement community is not your friend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence was launched today at the annual conference of the International Association of Chiefs of Police in Orlando, Florida,” prnewswire.com informs us. “Representatives of the founding organizations were on hand to speak to the devastating impact of firearms, which kill and injure 100,000 Americans each year.” Yada yada yada gun crimes suck. Not one word in the release on what this new group will actually do. “Reducing gun violence is absolutely essential. Far too many of our citizens live in fear and far too many of our officers have lost their lives,” said Chief Rob Davis, president of the Major Cities Chiefs Association. “This unprecedented partnership is about bringing a fresh, pragmatic perspective to the debate about how to enhance community and officer safety.” Like that. So . . . what’s the real deal?</p>
<p>Like I was sayin’, the National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence ain’t saying. The only clue comes in their Statement of Principles. [Click here to download.] And that’s just as vague as the press release. Point three gives us an inkling:</p>
<p>    Elected   officials   must   commit   to   closing   gaps   in   the   current   regulatory   system,   including   those   that   enable   felons,   minors,   persons   with   mental   illness,  and  other  prohibited  persons  to  access  firearms,  and  those  that  allow   the  trafficking  of  illegal  guns.</p>
<p>What about the gaps between words? (Justification’s like that.) I wasn’t aware of any gaps in the current regulatory system that enable felons, minors, persons with mental illness, and other prohibited persons to gain access to firearms, or the trafficking of illegal guns. As far as I know, it’s already illegal to provide any of these groups with firearms. Perhaps we should focus on enforcement of existing laws.</p>
<p>That said, the statement’s meaning depends on how you define “access.” If you limit the meaning to “purchase or possession,” it’s all bad. But a wider interpretation of this seemingly innocuous “principle” could also green light attempts to legislate against the so-called “gun show loophole” and the equally phantasmagorical “terrorist loophole.” What’s the bet that that’s exactly what this new meta-group’s gunning for?</p>
<p>Needless to say, there’s no website for The National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence, or a contact number at the bottom of the press release.</p>
<p>The biggest indication that I’m not wearing a tinfoil hat: the new org’s Statement of Principles is hosted on the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) website, along with their contact person (left message). The IACP was solidly behind H.R. 2159, the now stillborn Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act. The bottom line: the IACP never met a gun reg “loophole” they didn’t want to close, regardless of its effect on Americans’ gun rights.</p>
<p>While we attempt to chase this down, I would once again caution those who seeks to defend and extend the Second Amendment: the law enforcement community is not your friend.</p>
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